Q&A: does the theory of creationism and intelligent design just make americans look stupid?
Posted by James on October 16, 2010 · 22 Comments
Question by lionel b: does the theory of creationism and intelligent design just make americans look stupid?
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Answer by imraybarbonifrommiami
Just as stupid as it makes scientist look for saying the universe collapses and expands just because.
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Are you calling me stupid?
The wording of that question made you sound stupid.
I wouldn’t limit nutty religious zealotry to Americans.
It makes them appear as unable to fully support the principle of empiricism over dogma. Whether that is stupidity or not, that is quite subjective.
No. The theory of coming from apes or a big bang does!!!!
Yes if it were up to Christians, the Earth would be 10,000 years old living amoung Dinosaurs, and we would be praying to Jesus and we would be punished for ever reading about Darwin, and Evolution. Creationism isn’t Science, and Evolution is a Fact, no longer a theory. Jane Goodall for darn sakes saw monkeys themselves hunting with spears. We share %98 of thier DNA. How can we not have evolved ? Why can’t Christians tell us that ? Without any intelligant person laughing, because they know no God has ever been proven. You can’t prove the inexistance.
You know you have really asked for it man. If you do the research it infacts makes you look smarter. Wanna see my research?
Here it is.
One of the major points for God is right in the laws of thermal dynamics. One of the laws of thermal Dynamics is “Chaos may come from order but order never comes from chaos except with the help of an outside force”
In the “Big Bang” theory two large masses called dark matter collide in a “chaotic explosion” that jump started the beginning of the universe. Now remember the laws of thermal dynamics are proven fact. Scientists own laws discredits the big bang theory with one single swoop.
Now before anyone mentions that thermal dynamics only applies to a closed system let me remind you that the universe is still expanding today. In a closed system the rate is either constant or increasing. Never decreasing. Scientists expected as time past that the expansion of the universe would slow down as expected in an open system but to their surprise the rate of expansion is not slowing but increasing in speed! That suggests a closed system nay it proves a closed system. Thus the universe is a closed system and therefore the laws of thermal dynamics apply to it.
Now back to that law of thermal dynamics.
The only way the big bang could actually work is with the help of an outside force. Guess who that outside force is. God? DING DING! Correct!
You see if you actually study. people who don’t believe intelligent design look like they are just grasping for any theory that excludes the existence of God.
P.s it may be true that we share 98% dna with chimps but we actually have a better dna match out there. Wanna know what it is? Earthworms. Common earthworms. Until I see earthworms hunting with spears I will continue to believe.
Yeah, I have to agree with the others. I think trying to prove that an entire univers coming out of nothing just by random chance is one thing that makes americans look stupid. But that’s just one out of thousands ha ha.
And to make Americans look even more dumb, its like the person up there who said that Evolution is a Fact. 1 thing, it is a theory (hence the name Theory of Evolution), and even if it was “fact,” facts are proven wrong every day. The only thing that is solid and can never change would be called a Law (Law of Gravity).
I do not believe that it does. It is human nature to wonder why we are here and the most obvious explanation is that someone put us here. Sigmund Freud in his writings about religion poses the theory that humans feel the need to have a father figure. Many people find comfort in having a god, and can cope better with problems in there life. Many cannot fathom the finality of death, hence their must be an afterlife. The thinking behind it is all very logical.
Seeing as how America in far from being the only Country that favors creationism it does not make us look stupid. Creationists are in the majority so they only look stupid to the minority, and no one cares what we, the atheists, the minorty think.
Whoa there…..The idea didn’t just start in America, it is a global belief, stupid it may be but it is a reflection of the human condition not just an American genetic defect.
Actually I can’t imagine that the majority of Americans would believe in creationism anyway, I don’t think that is taught in most schools there is it?
I must say that the claim of Pres. Bush that God told him to invade Iraq makes those (70 million evangelist) Americans that believe him look incredibly stupid, more like sheep (or perhaps lambs to the slaughter).
Human beings can hardly be called INTELLIGENT design can they, rather design of sorts, a rather mediocre effort, could do better…….grade : D minus, I think.
Perhaps I am a little generous with the grade (only because some of us are endowed with a sense of humor).
Off to bible thumping class for me!
Ignorance is such bliss.!
Best wishes and peace be with you all…….even Jesus managed to laugh a lot, perhaps not at the last supper though.
Intelligent design is a theory, creationism is not. It is written in the book of Genesis and, when it was written, it was not presented as cute little story, or a theory, but a fact.
It is up to everyone who reads it to accept it as fact or not, as they choose.
No, but generalizations do.
It certainly does. Any educated person knows that they are useless. (Pay attention — I did not say Wrong.)
Postscript: I am particularly impressed by Warrior’s remarkable level of ignorance. There is enough junk science in that response to fuel a one semester college course.
First off, I dont know what Americans have to do with your question, Secondly, any religion who still worships as they did 2000 years ago or more is about as naive as people come! No matter what religion, it seems every one of them puts words into Gods mouth and judges how the All Mighty chose to create! Lets face a fact. If God decided to use evolution as the method, SO BE IT! Who are we to judge?
To Ellen J… So some old fool chewing a coca leave and puffing on a fat doob came along and wrote scripture, Does that make it a truth? God DIDNT write the Bible! A bunch of old unknowing, uneducated fools did! I’ve seen dinosaur bones til their hangin out my bum! I still havent seen one iota of a piece of Ark wood!
SLYNX…I believe in God! I also believe in evolution! What makes you think evolution is a form of atheism? You aint even close! I simply choose to look at it with a modern approach. Matter of fact, a good lot of people believe in both! Get out of the past! I suppose you look up in the sky at nite and tremble in fear when you see a comet! Warning from the Lord! For Christs sake and I mean that literally, get with the times! Evolution and religion CAN go hand in hand! Its time for you back woods bible thumpers to quit being cave men!
No: there are many other things that make them look stupid.
Moreover, it is the fact that such “lowest common denominator” individuals are allowed to divide the country, foment serious debate about the vracity of such a theory rather than the theory per se (which in and of itself may be quite intelligently conceived), and argy-bargy to and fro interrupting both educational policy and process in certain States that renders the national image of the United States closer toward its functional reality.
But not to worry: The Reject For America in the New Century is working its miracles, a wonder to behold – from overseas!
The fact is that evolutionists believe in evolution because they want to. It is their desire at all costs to explain the origin of everything without a Creator. Evolutionism is thus intrinsically an atheistic religion. Some may prefer to call it humanism, and New Age evolutionists may place it in the context of some form of pantheism, but they all amount to the same thing. Whether atheism or humanism (or even pantheism), the purpose is to eliminate a personal God from any active role in the origin of the universe and all its components, including man.
Since both naturalism and humanism exclude God from science or any other active function in the creation or maintenance of life and the universe in general, it is very obvious that their position is nothing but atheism. And atheism, no less than theism, is a religion!
Therefore, they must believe it, and that makes it a religion. The atheistic nature of evolution is not only admitted, but insisted upon, by most of the leaders of evolutionary thought.
A professor in the Department of Biology at Kansas State University was quoted:
“Even if all the data point to an intelligent designer, such a hypothesis is excluded from science because it is not naturalistic.”
There is scientific evidence for creation from cosmology, thermodynamics, paleontology, biology, mathematical probability, geology, and other sciences.
There are many scientists in each field who conclude that the scientific data best support the creation model, not the evolution model.
Although highly imaginative “transitional forms” between man and ape-like creatures have been constructed by evolutionists based on very fragmentary evidence, the fossil record actually documents the separate origin of primates in general, monkeys, apes, and men. In fact, Lord Zuckerman (not a creationist) states that there are no “fossil traces” of a transformation from an ape-like creature to man.
The fossils of Neanderthal Man were once considered to represent a primitive sub-human (Homo neanderthalensis), but these “primitive” features are now known to have resulted from nutritional deficiencies and pathological conditions; he is now classified as fully human. Ramapithecus was once considered to be partially man-like, but is now known to be fully ape-like. Australopithecus, in the view of some leading evolutionists, was not inter- mediate between ape and man and did not walk upright. The strong bias of many evolutionists in seeking a link between apes and man is shown by the near-universal acceptance of two “missing links” that were later proved to be a fraud in the case of Piltdown Man (Eoanthropus) and a pig’s tooth in the case of Nebraska Man (Hesperopithecus).
This… I would hardly call stupid.
The ancient classics did not experience philosophy as the mere ‘learning’ or ‘recital’ of others’ thoughts and quotations. They originated thought, albeit fledglingly compared to knowledge and comprehension gained since. And so it is with us today, that if we want to find new, basic understanding, we too, from our new vantage point, must go back to original concepts, to fundamentals — again thinking things out to their original causes. That is what they were trying to do way back then in their own early fashion, and that is the true meaning of philosophy.
yes it does, trust me I’m not from america and thats the impression I got. Its like the lack of cultures that are soley american has caused you to over compensate on the side of religion. Its like you flaunt it too much to get gods attention, I’ve even heard of people praying to win lotto or to get cars or better jobs. You need to learn to be more humble and work hard for your goals. Its what you expect from religon that makes you look stupid.
When they say “the big bang says something came from nothing” or “evolution says humans came from monkeys” that proves their stupidity.
Yeah – pretty much. The whole idea of trying to squeeze faith into a pseudo-scientific straitjacket is pretty stupid.
Yes.
Judging by this survey, yes:
“A comparison of peoples’ views in 34 countries finds that the United States ranks near the bottom when it comes to public acceptance of evolution. Only Turkey ranked lower.”
http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/060810_evo_rank.html
Woo hoo! … We’re number 33 out of 34! (At least we beat out Turkey.)
And judging by some of the answers on this page alone, yes.
Take Warrior Poet’s answer:
> One of the laws of thermal Dynamics is “Chaos may come from order but order never comes from chaos except with the help of an outside force”
There’s a guy just making stuff up! He can’t even *spell* thermodynamics, much less know what it says. Hint: There is no such law. He’s trying to express the Second Law of Thermodynamics … but he isn’t even close!
> “In the “Big Bang” theory two large masses called dark matter collide …”
Again, not even close.
> “Now before anyone mentions that thermal dynamics only applies to a closed system let me remind you that the universe is still expanding today.”
The definition of a “closed system” in thermodynamics has absolutely NOTHING to do with expansion, much less with the rate of that expansion. He is confusing two completely unrelated topics.
Hint: The Universe is indeed a closed system, but not because it is expanding, but because it has no outside energy source (that we know of). But this is irrelevant to the question of evolution of life on earth because the earth most certainly is NOT a closed system (as it has an external energy source).
> “it may be true that we share 98% dna with chimps but we actually have a better dna match out there. Wanna know what it is? Earthworms. ”
?? Where does he get this stuff?
Now, I don’t mean to pick on Warror Poet … but he is a perfect example of what happens when creationism interferes with the teaching of science. You get people who have little snippets of science and throw around technical-sounding terms like “thermal dynamics” without any real understanding of what they mean, or whether they’re scientific terms at all. In short, you get BAD science.
So yes, creationism and intelligent design makes us Americans, on average, look like scientifically illiterate IDIOTS.
It is an *embarassment* to Americans who actually paid attention in science class.
I don’t know about all Americans, but it sure made those residents of Kansas look stupid when they started teaching the Dogma of Creationism.
Yes