If humans are a product of intelligent design why then were humans designed with so many flaws?
Posted by James on September 3, 2010 · 18 Comments
Question by Hybrid Moments: If humans are a product of intelligent design why then were humans designed with so many flaws?
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I heard a world-famous televangelist say in his sermon that it was never God’s intention that Adam and Eve disobey His command and sin by eating of the forbidden tree. Most Christians would agree. They think God did not want Adam to sin; and Adam did not need to sin. If Adam had not sinned, we would all be living in a giant Garden of Eden to this very day. We would be in perfect health, there would be no sorrow, we would have pleasure twenty-four hours a day, we would never die, we would be happy and God too would be happy.
If Adam had shown just a little restraint the world wouldn’t be in the giant mess it is in today. Oh really? Well, why then didn’t Adam exercise restraint. What went wrong? Did the first humans malfunction? Was there a flaw in their original design. God was the Designer; is God the blame? Not according to Christendom. Is He at least responsible? Not according to Christendom. But why not?
Now listen carefully. Here is wisdom beyond its years. When a scientist creates an experiment or machine that malfunctions, is he responsible for the malfunction? Yes. Does he hold the experiment or machine responsible? No. Does he hold God responsible? No. Okay.
Now then, according to Christendom, when God creates an experiment or machine that malfunctions, is He responsible for the malfunction? No. Does He hold the experiment or machine responsible? Yes. Does He hold man responsible? Yes. See the wisdom?
I have just shown you one reason why God calls the WISDOM of this world, STUPIDITY!
“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness [Greek: stupidity] with God. For it is written, He takes the wise in their own craftiness” (I Cor. 3:19).
First, Christendom assumes that God’s creation of humans malfunctioned — they did NOT!
Second, they assume that God is not responsible and does not take responsibility — He DOES!
One unscriptural assumption added to another unscriptural assumption does not equal a Bible Truth!
Few indeed have ever stopped long enough to consider that just maybe God intended for the world to be in the hellish mess that we find it. Not for all eternity, but for the present, for a period of time, for a great purpose. It just seems so wrong to Christian thought to believe that God would have purposed such an evil and unhappy world. But look at the alternative. Are we to believe that God tried (albeit unsuccessfully) to make a good creation, but was unaware of its potential to run amok? And ever since, God must therefore either lack the love for humanity to straighten it out, or He lacks the power and ability. But either way it disowns God’s sovereignty and presents us with a God Who either CANNOT or WILL NOT STOP THE INSANITY! They would have us believe that God’s solution to rid the world of sin and evil is to torture most of humanity in fire for all eternity.
The whole idea is blasphemous. If a carnal-minded human can take responsibility for an invention that malfunctions, I submit, that God is bigger and more responsible than puny man. Be it known to all that God takes full responsibility for His creation, and absolutely nothing in His creation is malfunctioning. Here’s the proof:
If a thousand Christians were given the assignment to write an essay describing the world as it was after God completed it, but before man sinned, I am positive that we would get one thousand essays describing the unbelievable beauty, harmony, and perfection of all creation including man and beast. However, would such essays be based on the Scriptures? Let’s look at a little understood Scripture.
“For the creature [and/or creation itself] was MADE subject to VANITY NOT WILLINGLY, but by reason of Him [that’s God] Who HATH SUBJECTED the same in hope. Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the BONDAGE OF CORRUPTION into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the WHOLE CREATION groans and travails IN PAIN until NOW” (Rom. 8:20-22)!
Wow! Did you know that Scripture is in the Bible? Have you ever meditated at length on its meaning? This one Scripture does much damage to Christian doctrine. From a strictly carnal-minded approach, this Scripture is devastating. Let’s see what these words entail from Strong’s GREEK DICTIONARY OF THE NEW TESTAMENT:
VANITY: empty, profitless, vain, transientness [temporary], depravity [wickedness].
BONDAGE: slavery, subjection, subserviency.
CORRUPTION: shrivel, wither, spoil, ruin, deprave, defile, destroy, decay, perish
GROAN: moan, calamity, be in straits, murmur, grief, grudge, anguish.
TRAVAIL: pangs, to pain together, travail as in birth.
PAIN: anguish, toil for daily subsistence, starving.
The force of these verses in Rom. 8:20-22 is inescapable. It was God HIMSELF Who subjected the whole creation to vanity, and He didn’t ask anyone’s permission before He did it. And it is only God Himself Who will deliver the whole creation from the bondage of corruption, pain, and suffering. Make no mistake about it: God is the Creator of evil, and He takes full responsibility for the deliverance from the consequences of all the evils that have caused the creation to “groan and travail in PAIN until NOW” as Paul describes. God takes responsibility for the temporary failures of creation so that He can take all the credit and glory for its successes.
And most of the glory that God will receive is from the glory that He gives to all mankind.
It was not possible for Satan NOT TO SIN — he was created for the express purpose of being God’s Adversary, and so, of course, he was a sinner “FROM THE BEGINNING”!
It was not possible for Adam and Eve NOT TO SIN — they were created for the express purpose of being molded into the “image of God,” and so of course, they had to eat of the forbidden tree of the knowledge of good and evil or they would have NEVER reached this first spiritual step in becoming LIKE GOD (in His IMAGE), a step of paramount DIVINE REQUISITE:
“And the LORD God said, Behold [consider, to perceive, to know, to understand], the man is BECOME AS ONE OF US [Hebrew for ‘God’ is elohiym which is the plural of elowahh, hence ‘us’], TO KNOW GOOD AND EVIL…” (Gen. 3:22).
Knowing “good and evil” is one of the most essential requisites in being formed in the image of God. To truly “know” both good and evil they HAD to partake of its source, which was the “TREE of the knowledge of good and evil,” which then DEMANDED that they SIN in order to obtain this “knowledge.” NO OTHER TREE IN THE GARDEN POSSESSED THIS NEEDED KNOWLEDGE!
And so it was GOD, and none other than GOD, Who intended from the beginning that Satan and man SIN! That does not make God a sinner, for a sin is a “mistake,” a “missing of the mark,” a “falling short of the glory of God,” and God has NEVER MADE A MISTAKE OR FALLEN SHORT OF TOTAL PERFECTION! God knew what He was doing and how things would turn out BEFORE He created ANYTHING! “Declaring the end from the beginning…” (Isa. 46:10). Satan and man are “accountable” for their sins, because they sinned willingly from their heart, but God takes “responsibility” for their sins, and therefore had already provided them a Saviour BEFORE the foundation of the world:
“But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was FOREORDAINED BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, but was manifested in these last times for you” (I Pet. 1:19-20).
“And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb [Christ] slain from the FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD” (Rev. 13:8).
Is anyone so naive and blind as to believe that God had prepared a Lamb, a Sacrifice, His SON, to be slain for the sins of the world at a time when theologians would have us believe God didn’t even KNOW there was shortly coming such a thing as SIN? God knew; God is smart! It was God Who created the tree of the knowledge of good and evil It was God Who placed it right in the middle of the garden to catch Eve’s eye. It was God Who made the tree particularly attractive and desirable. It was God who placed in the humans the desires and passions that would CAUSE them to partake of the forbidden fruit. It was God who placed Satan the serpent in the garden to tempt Eve and fill her head with the glories of enlightenment. It was God Who had ALREADY made preparation for their salvation through the slain Lamb of God.
Only ignorant and foolish theologians would ever charge God of being ignorant of the conduct and behavior of His own creation. It was not the temptation or deception entering INTO Eve that caused her to sin and bring separation from her Creator and God. It was what was already in her that caused her to sin. Proof:
“For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies” (Mat. 15:19).
Notice it: “And when the woman saw [in her heart] that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eye [in her heart], and a tree to be desired [in her heart] to make one wise [an idol of the heart], she took [’For out of the heart proceed … thefts…’] of the fruit thereof, and did eat” (Gen. 3:6).
Did you notice that last phrase “…and did eat”? It was not the “eating” of the fruit that made her a sinner — she had ALREADY sinned by looking, lusting, and fantasizing about her potential wisdom. It was AFTER she sinned that she “did eat.”
The good news is that all of our suffering is for a grand purpose and will ultimately bring huge rewards. Just two verses before, Paul tells us how God subjected the whole creation to these many evils and he gives us this comfortin
because humans r not god …
Ahem….They’re not flaws, they’re features.
Because God suspected we would be jerks and so we would deserve flaws.
Oh my God, I am so sick of seeing this question….
Read the 1million other resolved questions that look exactly like this, don’t waste 2 points asking that question. Oh wait.
Humans were created perfect but sinned marred them.
……………give a list
sin
rebellion
using their freewill to make wrong choices
We were perfect and given free will, and we chose to sin.
Humans were given free-will but instead have created flaws for themselves.
we are not designed with flaws
“Mind” or “thoughts” are the cause of flaws……
Humans were perfect before sin. It wasn’t God’s fault, it was mans.
What flaws?
Disease is a consequence of original sin.
RECALL NOTICE:
The Maker of all human beings (GOD) is recalling all units
manufactured, regardless of make or year, due to a serious defect in the
primary and central component of the heart.
This is due to a malfunction in the original prototype units
code named Adam and Eve, resulting in the reproduction of the same
defect in all subsequent units. This defect has been technically termed
“Sub-sequential Internal Non-Morality, ” or more commonly known as
S.I.N., as it is primarily expressed.
Some of the symptoms include:
1. Loss of direction
2. Foul vocal emissions
3. Amnesia of origin
4. Lack of peace and joy
5. Selfish or violent behavior
6. Depression or confusion in the mental component
7. Fearfulness
8. Idolatry
9. Rebellion
The Manufacturer, who is neither liable nor at fault for this
defect, is providing factory-authorized repair and service free of
charge to correct this defect..
The Repair Technician, JESUS, has most generously offered to
bear the entire burden of the staggering cost of these repairs. There is
no additional fee required.
The number to call for repair in all areas is: P-R-A-Y-E-R.
Once connected, please upload your burden of SIN through the
REPENTANCE procedure.. Next, download ATONEMENT from the Repair
Technician, Jesus, into the heart component.
No matter how big or small the SIN defect is, Jesus will replace
it with:
1. Love
2. Joy
3. Peace
4. Patience
5. Kindness
6. Goodness
7. Faithfulness
8. Gentleness
9. Self control
Please see the operating manual, the B.I.B.L.E. (Believers’
Instructions Before Leaving Earth) for further details on the use of
these fixes.
WARNING: Continuing to operate the human being unit without
correction voids any manufacturer warranties, exposing the unit to
dangers and problems too numerous to list and will result in the human
unit being permanently impounded. For free emergency service, call on
Jesus..
DANGER: The human being units not responding to this recall
action will have to be scrapped in the furnace. The SIN defect will not
be permitted to enter Heaven so as to prevent contamination of that
facility. Thank you for your attention!
– GOD
P.S. Please assist where possible by notifying others of this
important recall notice, and you may contact the Father any time by
‘Knee mail’.
It’s called SIN!!!!!!
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Apostolic Believer In One God, Jesus
There are numerous known “flaws”, or vestigial traits in humans. Intelligent design is a fallacy that says that because the universe must have had a beginning, it must have been created by an infinite being, which is not even a germane answer to the question of the origin of the universe.
This is the argument of the First Cause. This argument maintains that, since everything that happens has a cause, there must be a First Cause from which the whole series starts. The argument suffers, however, from the same defect as that of the elephant and the tortoise. It is said (I do not know with what truth) that a certain Hindu thinker believed the earth to rest upon an elephant. When asked what the elephant rested upon, he replied that it rested upon a tortoise. When asked what the tortoise rested upon, he said, “I am tired of this. Suppose we change the subject.” This illustrates the unsatisfactory character of the First-Cause argument. Nevertheless, you will find it in some ultra-modern treatises on physics, which contend that physical processes, traced backward in time, show that there must have been a sudden beginning and infer that this was due to divine Creation. They carefully abstain from attempts to show that this hypothesis makes matters more intelligible.
The following are the known human vestigial traits:
The vermiform appendix is a vestige of the cecum. The coccyx, or tailbone, is the remnant of a lost tail.
Wisdom teeth are vestigial third molars that human ancestors used to help in grinding down plant tissue.
Humans and other primates such as the orangutan and chimpanzee however have ear muscles that are minimally developed and non-functional.
The plica semilunaris is a small fold of tissue on the inside corner of the eye. It is the vestigial remnant of the nictitating membrane (the “third eyelid”) which is present in other animals such as birds, reptiles, and fish.
So, what about the “poor design” arguments (sometimes called Dysteleology)?
The thing is, most “poor design” arguments come from ignorance. We are constantly finding previously unknown functions (important functions) for the supposed vestigial structures and so-called “junk DNA.”
For instance, in October, 2007, CNN.com had the article: Purpose of Appendix Believed Found. Some scientists discovered that it is a safe house for good bacteria and can reboot the digestive system if needed.
In July, 2009, National Geographic had an article called: Vestigial Organs Not So Useless After All. The study revealed an important role played by the spleen, formerly considered vestigial. Besides the fact that it helps filters out red blood cells that are damaged or old, it is a storehouse for a type of white blood cells for immune defense and tissue repair. Those without spleens are more likely to die from heart disease and pneumonia. In the article, Dr. Jeffrey Laitman admitted, “History is littered with body parts that were called ‘useless’ simply because medical science had yet to understand them . . . People say, ‘You can remove it and still live.’ But you have to be careful with that logic. You could remove your left leg and still live.” And the article also talked about the appendix.
Evolutionists told us the appendix, the spleen, the pineal gland, the pituatary gland, and a hundred other things were vestigial, only to have science find out they had a function after all. How many people were exposed to increased infections during the tonsillectomy craze of the 1960s?
But the thing is, if the Creator is the God of the Bible, then we are told that this is a cursed earth (all of creation is suffering as a result of man’s sin in Gen. 3); everything is in a state of progressive degeneration—bad things are supposed to happen and things are expected to get worse (e.g. mutational load). Unlike God, the creation is wearing out like a garment (as it says in Psalm 102:25-26).
It’s like the example of a gardener digging up an ancient book—the book is falling apart, it’s pages are mostly stuck together, and the type has faded. Does the current condition of the book mean that it never carried a message and that it wasn’t designed? The book is in a degenerative condition, but there is no denying that it was designed for a purpose and optimal for doing it’s job at one point in time.
Suppose you turn on a computer and it’s not working property. What do you say, “This computer must not have been designed because it’s not working properly”?
An unbeliever looks at the earth and finds examples of what he or she believes are evidences of poor design. Yet, it is very likely they might be witnessing degeneration from the Fall, or again that they are simply ignorant of the purpose.
As it has been said, “We will not assume, therefore, that because an unbeliever’s reasoning ability is flawed, this proves his brain was not designed” (just a bit of a low blow).
And besides, this argument can just as easily be turned around. Why has evolution been so slow at getting rid of useless structures in our case? Why isn’t evolution more effective at getting rid of vestigial structures if humans have been around for over 300,000 years?