Sound Editing and Sound Design For Independent Film (Part 1)
Posted by James on January 10, 2013 · 24 Comments
PART 1 (please see my videos or link for Part 2) -www.youtube.com The Importance of Sound Editing & Sound Design in Independent Film and Media This is a video presenting 2 case study examples of how & why quality sound editing and sound design is a highly valued part of the film making process (which is overlooked more often than not), demonstrating the effect that it can have on scenes, and overall importance of sound in context to the big picture of making media. 2 scenes from the short film “The Hunter” by Alastair Ferran (www.alastairferran.com) are presented in an unedited form, then have they’re faults broken down, & the apprach that was taken to process each scene brushing over the various techniques used. Finally each scene is then played back again with finished edited audio track, allowing direct comparison from the materials available, & the end result. I hope this video is able to demonstrat clearly the need smaller productions to must place on quality location recording, & sound post production. Enjoy. www.simonnorman.com
Video Rating: 4 / 5
Lyrics: Look at the pattern Can you see what’s wrong? It’s supposed to? be perfect (But really it’s not) But really it’s not. Can you find the flaws Hidden in structured code Hiding in the pattern In between the rows? Only illogics can find Hidden flaws in a straight logic line. Only erratics recognize Errors in patterns of a perfect design. Only illogics can? find Hidden flaws in a straight logic line. Only erratics recognize Errors in patterns of a perfect design. Now that you? know That something’s not right Look at it carefully In pale logic light. Don’t be sorry If you can’t recognize The errors and faults In such a perfect disguise. Only illogics can find… This is a very nice psychill track featuring some nice down-tempo sounds, with a bit of dub infused with the female vocals in this track. Definitely a track to check out (8
Awesome dude ^_^,? definately good, only advice i’d give is, the footsteps are still lacking realism…they don’t match up fully with the image but most people won’t really notice i guess once the ambiences are in and footstep levels are down
Fantastic before and after videos! Loads to learn for my own? indie films
thanks a? lot very good explanation
I’ve not really got? round doing anything like this yet, & its quite a deep subject so would probly take me a LONG time to produce it properly in a digestable fashion, I may do it one day, but at the mo actually doing the work has current presidence
Thank? you for posting this mate.. very interesting.. and yes I think you are right..often the sound is overlooked for beginner courses etc
I didnt run the location sound for this project. from what I know, the director was in new york for 6? weeks, of which himself & the crew he had there wrote & shot 2 short films, so they all had to work pretty fast. they didnt have an actual sound recordist, so I belive they simply used used 2 channels of radio mics attached to the actors, & nothing else. hence the fight sequence sounding HORRIBLE (2 actors fighting wearing radio mics… bad times)
Thanks for posting. It’s great to see or HEAR the before and after.
I’m curious to? see if you changed the way you recorded audio after this shoot.
personally, I’d record ambience where possible in stereo, the reason being if the purpose? suits it better, you can very easily set that stereo ambience file to be a mono within the mix. simulated stereo never sounds as wide or a natural. in this day & age of considerbly afforable & easily attainable quality stereo recorders, theres no real excuse not too 😉
Do you record ambience? sound in stereo or do you simulate stereo ?
Dont get me wrong, of course the priest ADR voice sounds MUCH better than the original but once you tell me it is ADR? I cant help but notice the ADR effect. Great tutorial.
I kind of agree? with the ADR sound of the priest, it didnt sound SO bad IMO, thoI think the difference was noticable due to being layed against the other charecters original audio. this was part of the problum of the project tho, as only the priest could do ADR, the other charecter was away in germany & couldnt be brought in for an ADR session. also I wasnt able to record the ADR myself, as it was in new york & I’m based in england, so had to work with what was available.
Great? video ! Although it sounded much better I think that the ADR of the priest sounded “boxy”. The other guy sounded very good because his voice blended with the ambience.
can you give some material while you were editing the sounds(like an application tutorial) because i’m very interetested in editing? and sound edition is really out of my knowledge..
it’s about life and perception, how we see flaws in neutrality (truth is neither good, nor bad… it just is), and project values accordingly. Any attributed? value of good or bad is not truth, and it’s poking at the irony of that and how it pertains to humans.
>It’s saying perception is flawed as it recognizes something other than truth(perception of difference)
>all humans have perception of difference
>all humans are illogics.
There’s a difference between good vs. bad and right vs. wrong.
the whole album to me – from the beginning to the end – is like steps of a person throughout his Astral projection progress… and this is the? stage where you see wavery image, strange light patterns without any noticing the illogical of them
lyrics? are DOPE!!!!
magic??
Can someone explain me? the lyrics?
Haha, now the lyrics? make sense.
When I listened to the track I’ve heard “Only erotics work at night”
instead of “Only erratics recognize”
I should have slept this night…
Super!?
One of my most favorites lately. ?
God I love this? song.
Don’t be sorry
If you can’t recognize
The errors and faults
In such a perfect disguise.
THANK YOU FOR THE LYRICS this used to be my favorite CBL track until I heard “right where it ends”? from the new album. now this is the second favorite ;P
Freshh. :D?